j4: (dodecahedron)
j4 ([personal profile] j4) wrote2008-02-05 06:56 pm

Logic hates

Is there a name for the (il)logical pattern that goes something like:
"I believe/think/have experienced X. You believe/think/claim to have experienced not-X. Therefore you are deluding yourself"
?

I've been tagging it as "false consciousness" in my brain, but that's a bit of a misnomer.

[identity profile] htfb.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 10:20 am (UTC)(link)
Gosh, I remember talking to you about your experience of God in the world at a party on the Botley Road in about, oh, 1997. You did very well in presenting a coherent picture, though the universally moralising God at St Aldate's is to my mind a metaphysical extravagance...

You ask for a technical term. A's and B's point of difference is in their idols of the cave (idola specus); A's fallacious dismissal of B is an idol of the theatre, idola theatri.

[identity profile] j4.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 11:23 am (UTC)(link)
Your technical terms are beautiful, and "therefore" true. I will go and read more.

I sincerely hope that I didn't tell you that you were deluded for not having experienced God; though if I did, well, I guess most people have to be 18 once in their lives, but hopefully can avoid remaining so for any longer than strictly necessary. :-}

I'm not sure what you mean about the "universally moralising God" of St Aldate's, though. But then I've blanked a lot of it from my mind.