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j4 ([personal profile] j4) wrote2005-07-04 12:18 pm

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It's my mum's birthday in August, and she usually has a book wish-list which she gives to my dad, my sister and me in case we can't think of anything else to buy her. Now while I don't really mind buying stuff off the list, a) it seems a bit daft given that she's quite happy to buy them for herself anyway, and b) there's always a lot of faff between the three of us as to who buys what, sometimes resulting in duplicate copies. I'd quite like to get her something that she wouldn't buy for herself, i.e. something she might not even know exists, but should like anyway.

So, knowing that there are a fair few SF/Fantasy geeks reading this, I'm turning to you guys for help. Things I know she has read and enjoyed recently:

[edited to include suggestions that I know she's already got/read]
  • Pratchett (funny how it's always the obvious ones you forget to mention)
  • Katherine Kerr (? I think she's got some of these)
  • Terry Goodkind
  • Ursula Le Guin
  • Mercedes Lackey
  • Raymond Feist
  • Julia Gray, The Guardian Cycle series
  • Robert Jordan, Wheel of Time series
  • Guy Gavriel Kay, pretty much everything AFAICT
  • Robin Hobb, "Assassin" / "Fool" series
  • Marion Zimmer Bradley
  • Sheri S. Tepper
  • Barbara Hambly
  • Elizabeth Moon
  • Diana Wynne Jones
  • "Bridget Jones" :-)

Can anybody recommend anything that someone who's liked all these might enjoy? (Apologies in advance if I end up saying "I think she's got/read that", I can't remember everything that's on her shelves...) Ideally I want to avoid authors she's already buying everything by, because it's just too easy to duplicate stuff.

NB it doesn't have to be Fantasy (you know I don't really do genre anyway!) but she doesn't read that much SF and I've not had that much success finding non-genre things that she likes... at least, I lent her a huge stack of books a while ago and she wasn't wildly enthusiastic about any of them. Open to suggestions, though.

[identity profile] damned-colonial.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
How about Connie Willis? I mention this not out of any particular similarity, but just because I've never yet found anyone who liked the non-hard-SF end of speculative fiction of any kind and didn't enjoy "To Say Nothing of the Dog".

[identity profile] j4.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd never heard of author or title until now, but if the review/summary on Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553575384/) is accurate, it sounds fantastic! Suspect this is one for me to read anyway (and buy a copy for my mum if I think she'll like it too).

BTW, um, those Georgette Heyer books... [looks sheepish] ... there was faff, & I didn't have an address for you, but mostly there was just faff, & I'm sorry. I do still have them, and if you email me an address, I'll post them to you -- will pay postage ('printed paper' will be cheapish anyway) for the sake of giving them a good home & gaining the space in the library. :-)

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[personal profile] taimatsu 2005-07-04 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh, my partner has that and I've kept peering at it and never read it. Sounds like I ought to give it a go.

[livejournal.com profile] j4, your mother's tastes sound not too far from mine! I really enjoyed an SF trilogy by John Varley; three books entitled 'Titan', 'Wizard' and 'Demon'. I actually want to buy them for Hugo who turns 18 on Friday, but Robert thinks they might be out of print. Worth a look if you do see them, though, despite their SFness.

There's always Raymond E Feist; I liked the initial couple of Midkemia books ('Magician' and 'Silverthorn') and the 'Foo of the Empire' trilogy (with Janny Wurts) much more than the rest of it, which is more spinoff cashing-in sort of stuff, IMO.

One assumes she has read Neil Gaiman's 'Neverwhere' and 'American Gods', but if by some chance that's not the case... Also the Charles Vess-illustrated version of Stardust is very nice indeed (it's a nearly-graphic-novel format rather than a standard book).

I think that may all be very obvious. I'll ask Robert as well, because he likes some authors on that list that I'm less familiar with.

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[personal profile] fanf 2005-07-04 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Connie Willis is better at shorts than novels, though TSNOTD is quite good. However her Oxford is a little bit wrong...

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[identity profile] k425.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Diane Duane is nice. Fantasy, cats. Book of Night With Moon and On Her Majesty's Wizardly Service - cats, kids and dinosaurs fight and save the world.

[identity profile] j4.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
The name rings a bell, which may just mean that other people have mentioned her or may mean my mum's already got some... Sounds good, though, so I will try to sneak a peek at bookshelves (or ask my dad to do so).

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[identity profile] bibliogirl.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Lois Bujold? I hear a lot of good things about her stuff even if I've not got round to reading it myself yet.

[identity profile] keirf.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I found Lois McMaster Bujold irritating. Combined the worst traits of EE Doc Smith and Asimov.

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[identity profile] senji.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Wizard of the Pigeons is Megan Lindholm's (Robin Hobb's less famous name!) most consistently recommended book. And, well, I enjoyed it…

[identity profile] j4.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
ISTR [livejournal.com profile] sion_a said he hadn't been too keen on the Lindholm he'd read (which may not have been that one), but will look into it, thanks.

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[identity profile] fluffymormegil.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll recommend the earlier Mercedes Lackey stuff - Oathbound/Oathbreakers, Arrows of the Queen/Arrow's Flight/Arrow's Fall. After that she starts writing too many angsty gayboys. (I have nothing in principle against angsty gayboys, but Vanyel Ashkevron is such a stereotype!)

[identity profile] bibliogirl.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, you could always try her on some of the non-Valdemar Lackey, too -- the recent stuff like _Gates of Sleep_ is quite fun, as is _Fairy Godmother_. I mean, we're not talking deep literature here, but still entertaining.

[identity profile] j4.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I'm afraid I think she's got some of those actually -- definitely the Arrows stuff, so probably the others as well. Will amend the list accordingly...

And, um, I really liked Magic's Pawn.

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[identity profile] perdita-fysh.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I *heart* Diane Wynne Jones (and she has written so much stuff that you can probably find something she doesn't already have without too much effort too, Amazon marketplace is good for out of print stuff).

On the grounds that anyone else who loves DWJ might also love other things I love, I also love Ursula Le Guin. Not that the styles are the same in any way, I think it is more to do with intelligent, well written stuff not about 'real life'. The Earthsea stuff is her most fantasy, least sci fi, work but also what she's most likely to have already come across. Maybe she hasn't already found things like 'Worlds of Exile and Illusion' 'The Left Hand of Darkness' 'The Lathe of Heaven' or 'The Dispossessed' though?

[identity profile] j4.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm afraid she's already got all the Le Guin I'd be likely to be able to find... and I thought "The Left Hand of Darkness" was required reading for anybody who claimed to have ever read SF/Fantasy (or is that just in Cambridge?) ;-)

There may be some DWJ she doesn't have but I know she just got rid of "Howl's Moving Castle" and, um, another one (in the same series? Looked like, anyway...) on the grounds that she probably wouldn't bother reading them a second time, so I suspect I may have mined that seam to the limit.

Sorry!

totally off, but

[identity profile] vinaigrettegirl.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
She might really like David Nobbs's "Going Gently" (he's the originator of Reginald Perrin, amongst other things). It's a very lively and satisfying read, and as it includes humour, elements of fantasy and the surreal, more than one wise woman, and insight, it might be a memorable birthday book.

She might also like "Notes from Overground" ('Man is born free but is everywhere in trains'), by 'Tiresias', which is fantastically funny and can be returned-to over and over again.

Re: totally off, but

[identity profile] j4.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
"Notes from Overground" sounds fantastic, definitely one for me if not for her... I should ask for recommendations for other people more often! (Not that I actually need to lengthen my reading list any, but hey ho.)

Not sure about the Nobbs book (for reasons I can't quite put my finger on), but I'll have a look. Thanks for the suggestions.

[identity profile] geekette8.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Jasper Fforde (the Thursday Next series)?

[identity profile] j4.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, yes, possibly. I started reading one of them & it didn't really wow me, but it looked quite good fun, so I might have another look with a view to "will she like this?" rather than "do I like this enough to bother reading it given that I have a zillion other things to read as well?" IYSWIM. :-)

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[identity profile] fluffymormegil.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Other thoughts...
Lyndon Hardy's Master of the Five Magics et seq (two others whose precise titles I forget, although their numerical parts follow on from five).
Katherine Kurtz's Deryni novels.
Ardath Mayhar - Khi To Freedom and others.
Patricia C. Wrede - Talking to Dragons and its related works are fairly light-hearted, the other stuff rather less so.
PC Hodgell - God Stalk et seq. (Though laying hands on God Stalk itself may be Hard :/ )
(Pretty much everything I'm mentioning is off my mother's bookshelves.)

[identity profile] borusa.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Lyndon Hardy's Master of the Five Magics et seq (two others whose precise titles I forget, although their numerical parts follow on from five).

"Secret of the Sixth" and "Riddle Of The Seven Realms", I believe. I loved Master of the Five, but the sequels were a bit disappointing and quite frankly awful, respectively.

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[personal profile] rmc28 2005-07-04 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I've got books by about 2/3 of that list and would add the following (some of which I know other people have said, but I may as well add a vote or two):

* Diane Duane
* Lois McMaster Bujold (especially Shards of Honor & Barrayar, sometimes sold in one book as Cordelia's Honor)
* Ursula Le Guin (especially The Left Hand of Darkness, because it is excellent and everyone should read it)
* Vernor Vinge: A Fire Upon The Deep or A Deepness In The Sky as a first one, I was less enthralled by Across Realtime although it is still good.

* Jenny Crusie, who's definitely Not SF or fantasy, but more like Georgette Heyer except set *now* rather than in costume drama. And makes me laugh a lot.

[identity profile] j4.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Bujold and Duane are looking like the top of the list so far...

I utterly loathed "A Fire Upon the Deep", I'm afraid, so I really don't think I could wish it on anybody else!

Never heard of Jenny Crusie, but will investigate -- thanks.

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[personal profile] juliet 2005-07-04 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Is she much on the historical stuff? I very much enjoyed 'Quicksilver' by Neal Stephenson which is sort of, er, historical-fantasy-epic, er... I dunno, I enjoyed it in the same sort of way as I enjoy fantasy, because he has this richly detailed & enormously complicated world to get engrossed in. So your mum might like it too.

[identity profile] keirf.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Mythago Wood, by Robert Holdstock.
The Riddlemaster of Hed, by Patricia McKillip.

[identity profile] j4.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, good point on the Holdstock. Except I now have to try to remember if I've already lent it to her. :-}

Will look at the other one, thanks!

[identity profile] rillaith.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen others have already mentioned George R R Martin and Diane Duane, who I'll second, but what about...

Katherine Kerr - Deverry (http://www.deverry.com/deverry.html) series
Terry Goodkind - Sword of Truth (http://www.terrygoodkind.com/Truth.php) series
James Patterson (mostly writes crime / mystery type fiction - although his latest is, shockingly, Mills and Boon-esque!) The Lake House (http://www.jamespatterson.com/chapters/lakehouse_pro.html), which is fairly fantasy-based.
James Clemens (http://www.jamesclemens.com/), the Wit'ch series (Banned and the Banished - 5 books), which are engrossing once you get past the apostrophe-itis.

I've found that a lot of people I know with similar tastes in fantasy to myself have enjoyed a lot of crime/murder mystery authors - in particular [livejournal.com profile] ejde, [livejournal.com profile] beckyl and myself are pretty much consistently enjoying the same books.

[identity profile] j4.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm, my mum's not too keen on crime/murder mystery -- she used to read Agatha Christie and Margery Allingham but seems to have gone off the whole genre a bit in recent years.

I think she's got some Terry Goodkind and Katherine Kerr, but will check.

Sorry to be awkward! :)

Oh, and the Clemens sounds interesting -- she managed to read a lot of David Eddings so I suspect she can cope with apostrophes. ;-)

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[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll recommend Amy Thomson's "The Color of Distance".
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[personal profile] vatine 2005-07-04 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Possibly Peter Hamilton?

[identity profile] the-elyan.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
To add my own tiny voice:

1) the last book that really blew me away was "The Light Ages" by Iain MacLeod - "alternative England" with Fifth Element and lots of industrial-Age griminess. The sequel is a bit of a mess, though.
Though I haven't read it myself, I am led to believe Perdita (?) Street Station by China Mieville is very good in the same vein.

ii) Aberwyswyth Mon Amour by Malcolm Pryce - very, very funny Raymond Chandler spoof set in south Wales.

iii) anything by Neil Gaiman (but then I'm sure you knew that already)

iv) "Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell" by Susanna Clarke - weighty but ultimately rewarding (more alternative Englandery, this time with explicit magic, and jane Austen period setting). And if you get bore of it, it makes a very good brick.

v) Iain Banks - always reliable. The Crow Road is probably the best start-point of the non-genre...

And so on...

[identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com 2005-07-04 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Random shot off to one side, but if she likes Bridget Jones I and my mum love "Flying Under Bridges" by Sandy Toksvig. Which isn't SF at all, but is rather good.