I use "goth" to describe, well, you know what "goth" means to most people. I can't be arsed to itemise the things that I would associate with the category, and anyway, blah blah insert prototype theory here. Though I did once get into a strange conversation with a very well-spoken lady (clutching a copy of the Cambridge University Reporter, so presumably some kind of academic) on a train about what goth was. It started with her asking me and my travelling companion "Excuse me, but are you ... goths?" and went downhill from there. ("What do goths read? Is it Baudelaire? Rimbaud? Or more like Poe?") Anyway, goths (like most people) are like me in some ways, and not like me in others. I don't really use the word to express difference, just as shorthand for a set of vague ideas about dress sense & musical taste. I probably use it most in connection with clothing to mean something along the lines of "black/velvet/shiny/overpriced".
The main difference is that I don't know many people who would self-identify (oooo, I hate that word) as chavs. I don't use the word very often if at all, and again, if I do, it's in relation to the bloody hideous style of clothing. I didn't know until recently that the word was etymologically related to gypsies, and ... oh, I'm tired. Sorry. You know what I'm going to say, I know what you're going to say, and if you like, you can think of me as a filthy racist for thoughtlessly re-posting a tired meme from el Reg.
I don't think I had any plans to do that. I _certainly_ don't think I mentioned any plans to do that... I'm pretty sure I'm not going to do that, on the whole.
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Date: 2004-10-13 02:11 pm (UTC)The main difference is that I don't know many people who would self-identify (oooo, I hate that word) as chavs. I don't use the word very often if at all, and again, if I do, it's in relation to the bloody hideous style of clothing. I didn't know until recently that the word was etymologically related to gypsies, and ... oh, I'm tired. Sorry. You know what I'm going to say, I know what you're going to say, and if you like, you can think of me as a filthy racist for thoughtlessly re-posting a tired meme from el Reg.
Sigh.
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Date: 2004-10-13 02:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-13 02:45 pm (UTC)(Now all I have to do is arrange a party.)