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[personal profile] j4
I have mountains of things that I want -- nay, need -- to get rid of. It would be nice to swap some of them for piles of the little round beer tokens with the Queen's head on; but generating space is at least as important as the money.

Possible options I'm considering are a garage sale (well, a house sale, since we can't actually use the garage at the new house) or a blanket sale (like a car boot sale, only, er, with blankets) somewhere other than our house. If it's a blanket sale, other people will be able to come and sell their stuff too! The most likely date for this madness appears to be the August Bank Holiday weekend, but unfortunately that's also the date when everybody buggers off to sit in traffic jams for 3 days. So, a quick poll:

[Poll #540443]

I should also mention that while I have done (and will continue to) sell bits and bobs on eBay from time to time, there's just Too Much Stuff here for me to be able to list it all on eBay within a reasonable time-frame (I want to get rid of this stuff before the end of 2005!) while holding down a full-time job. And while I may fantasise about quitting my tedious office job and starting up some kind of house-clearance and eBay brokering company, I'm not actually about to do it Right Here, Right Now.

Date: 2005-07-27 11:16 am (UTC)
taimatsu: (Default)
From: [personal profile] taimatsu
I'd love to come, but I'm not free at all - I'm in Wales for the Bank Holiday and ten days before it, and then I'm going to Tewkesbury with the family. Gah!

Date: 2005-07-27 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filecoreinuse.livejournal.com
I shall most likely be moving that weekend so, although I'd love to get rid of all the moving junk, it would be somewhat stressful :).

Date: 2005-07-27 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Better than "will rent for internal organs", surely?

Brains!

Date: 2005-07-27 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoiho.livejournal.com
Zombieism - it's the wave of the future!

Date: 2005-07-27 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] k425.livejournal.com
Were I not too far away and on holiday anyway that weekend, I'd be interested. As it is, I wish you luck. And when you do get around to eBaying, let me know!

Date: 2005-07-27 12:13 pm (UTC)
juliet: (Default)
From: [personal profile] juliet
I wouldn't mind coming to visit, but I wouldn't be after selling stuff (I get rid of it on freecycle/to charity shops instead, less hassle), nor buying stuff as I have enough kit already!

Couple of thoughts: is it definitely worth the hassle of organising even this variety of sale rather than just going for freecycle/charity shops? If you invite other people to bring *their* kit, will you be able to resist picking up stuff from there (thus maybe not having quite the net reduction in Stuff you're after)? And have you thought about having a back-up plan for things that don't shift? (e.g. putting everything left-over in car boot & taking it straight to charity shop on Tuesday morning when they open).

But I would like to come up to Cam sometime soon, anyway!

Date: 2005-07-27 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
You're welcome to come and visit!

Worth the hassle -- well, it wouldn't really be any hassle to say "I'm having a sale on this day, please feel free to turn up and buy stuff".

Working for Oxfam I've become increasingly disillusioned with the whole 'charity shop' thing, and whether giving stuff to them is always a worthwhile thing to do. (More on that in another comment if you want...)

Also, while I probably will give the stuff that doesn't sell to charity shops or just give it away on ucam.adverts.giveaway, I am also slightly selfish and I would like to make some money, because I am short of money. If if turns out that everybody I know thinks trying to make money from people I know is a bad thing then I'll just look for a car boot sale I can do.

Picking up a bit of Other Stuff is not necessarily a bad thing. e.g. if I get rid of three suitcases full of clothes and buy a handful of CDs, then a) I've saved loads of space, & b) if they're CDs I was thinking of buying anyway then they'll almost certainly be cheaper from a jumble sale type thing.

Date: 2005-07-27 12:29 pm (UTC)
juliet: (Default)
From: [personal profile] juliet
I would find even that much hassle to be Kerfuffle, but possibly I'm just lazy :-)

Charity shops - well, tbh I get rid of more stuff via Freecycle anyway these days, because you can get people to come pick it up & therefore it doesn't hang round the hall in a plastic bag for ages (see laziness, above). I figure charity shop = better than bin (&, see above, couldn't be arsed with sale options). Though I would be interested in your opinions on charity shops & worthwhileness.

I don't think there's anything at all wrong with trying to get money for the stuff, whether from people you do know or people you don't! Just contemplating the hassle vs cash calculus - which for me I think would come out the other way than it does for you. Maybe I am just afeared of sales.

Date: 2005-07-27 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Just had a quick look at Freecycle and, gah, I think our ideas of hassle are just differently calibrated -- I can't be arsed to get a Yahoo account (yet another password to remember, and another 50 billion spams a day) so that I can sign up to something which is basically a replacement for the newsgroups where I can already advertise free stuff ...

I figure charity shop = better than bin

The problem is that I'm becoming increasingly convinced that a lot of the time charity shop == bin. If they don't have room for stuff they will just bin it, and their policies on what is good enough to sell and what isn't often seem so arbitrary. Maybe this is just Oxfam, or Oxfam is worse than most, though? Certainly the Oxfam bookshop where I work throws away about 50 boxes of books a week, many of which would certainly be good enough for some charity shops to sell; and they've just had to get rid of a load of books because Central Office insists on delivering the Christmas cards in July -- once those are in the storeroom they don't have room to store as many books. There is NO WAY I am giving any of my books to them.

Date: 2005-07-27 12:54 pm (UTC)
juliet: (Default)
From: [personal profile] juliet
I don't have such newsgroups (meant to say above, if you have ucam.giveaway or whatever it was then you have something doing that job, really) - & already had a Yahoo Groups account from various other email groups I've been signed up to over the years (some of which, of course, started off elsewhere & got EATEN by Yahoo, bah humbug). FWIW although Yahoo Groups require you to have an existent Yahoo email, they don't require you to *use* it - you can add an extra email address & then turn off deliveries to the yahoo one (have *never* used my yahoo email, I don't think. Until this moment had forgotten I had it :-) ).

Our local charity shop is, er, Cancer Research or something, I think. Certainly not Oxfam. Oxfam's shops do tend to look a little *shinier* than most other charity shops, I guess.

Date: 2005-07-27 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com
When I worked in Help the Aged I never noticed them bin significant amounts of anything. Even the really manky clothes went in a Rag Bag and got sold for pennies per kilogram.

Why doesn' Oxfam just pass the books they don't want onto less famous charity shops? *boggles* That seems really sad and stupid.

Date: 2005-07-27 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Why doesn' Oxfam just pass the books they don't want onto less famous charity shops?

Not allowed to by law -- AIUI basically charities aren't allowed to give money to other charities & it'd count as that. Can't remember the exact bit of legislation now but it's in the Charities Commission.

Yes, I think it's stupid as well, and so do a lot of the people who work there, but they can't do much about it. :-/

Date: 2005-07-27 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-elyan.livejournal.com
Do you work at the Oxfam bookshop in cambridge then?

I was in there about two hours ago...

Date: 2005-07-27 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
I work there as a volunteer, on Saturday mornings. The rest of the time I have to do a job that pays the rent!!

Date: 2005-07-27 03:49 pm (UTC)
aldabra: (Default)
From: [personal profile] aldabra
But someone could buy those boxes for tenpence a box, and rootle through them, and pass what they didn't want onto another charity?

Oh dear. I feel an unavoidable junk collection scheme coming on. What actual volume are we talking? I have serious objections to people Throwing Away Books, and a car, and could put together a list of other second-hand book destinations...

Date: 2005-07-27 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
I suggested this to Oxfam. They can't sell them at tenpence a box, because a) it would offend the people who give their books to them if they saw their books being sold for cheap (they don't see them being thrown away, see), and b) they have minimum prices which are set by Central Office.

I offered to just take them all home myself, like a personal waste-collection thing, and apparently that's out of the question because of insurance -- if I stubbed my toe while picking up boxes of books, they'd be liable. I guess you'd have to set up as a company for disposing of waste books... hmmm. If you seriously wanted to look into doing so, I'd be delighted to help!!

Date: 2005-07-27 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Sorry, missed the other question: actual volume == about 50 boxes a week, as I said. The big flat crate boxes, of the sort you'd get bananas in. YOU DO NOT HAVE SPACE IN YOUR HOUSE. Really. Nor do I. ;-)

To be fair, some of the books they throw away are actually badly torn, have pages missing, or are even mouldy; and some are Not Actually Books (the 1992 Good Food Guide, for instance, is Not A Book; and call me a literary snob but I'm fairly ambivalent about the Reader's Digest Condensed Books...). And some are too out of date to be useful e.g. old school science books (though probably of curiosity value to somebody). But, well.

Date: 2005-07-27 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-elyan.livejournal.com
If you find the idea of books that pass in and out of human consciousness interesting, might I recommend reading "The Shadow of the Wind" by Carlos Ruiz Zafon (I think)? Assuming you haven't already read it, of course... The central themes of the book are mostly concerned with books...

Date: 2005-07-28 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Ooh, I've been tempted by that in the shops a few times but not quite bought it. Next time I see it going cheap somewhere I will get it...

Date: 2005-07-27 06:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jiggery-pokery.livejournal.com
I wonder if Oxfams in less literate towns in Cambridge have similar gluts of books, or whether the book surplus is significantly Cantabrigian in extent? Not sure if it would be practical to ship books from Oxfam to Oxfam - sounds expensive to me, however you do it, but perhaps there might be a way...

Date: 2005-07-28 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
They already do ship thousands of books to other Oxfams. (I reckon there are lots of books which are just getting passed around from shop to shop and never actually selling...) And there's still boxes and boxes and boxes that get thrown away.

Date: 2005-07-27 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com
My first year report is due in on the 31st of August, so I fear that weekend may be a little fraught.

Date: 2005-07-27 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vinaigrettegirl.livejournal.com
Group sales are good things.

One way to get to know your neighbours would be to organise a bring-and-take for the street or some subunit thereof; I like you want some b33r tokens when I can get them, but our B&T worked quite well; people got rid of stuff, picked up the odd bits they could use, and the rest went to three local charities and the dump in that order. We got a magazine rack, and got rid of the cutlery trays, some clothes, a load of plastic bottles, the garden lounger which had no cushion and which we were never going to use anyway, and some cabinet doors. Our neighbour needed a larger cat-to-vet-type carrier, and wanted to get shot of her smaller one; that worked just fine.

I must consult about the BH w/e, but I suspect that 'II is hankering after sth less practical. :-(

Date: 2005-07-27 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] totorojo.livejournal.com
Ooh. This happens to be part of that very special Time When I Am Actually In The Country. Hence I get to vote and my vote actually has meaning.
How exciting! ^_^

Date: 2005-07-28 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluedevi.livejournal.com
I probably won't be around on the Bank Holiday weekend, so the maybe is a very faint maybe. But - you were talking about inviting me up to Cambridge some other time. Um. How's the weekend of the 13th August for you?

Date: 2005-07-28 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Argh, tricky. Going to a wedding on the 13th, and then going on holiday on the 14th. (Getting back on the subsequent Sunday so the next w/e is out too...) But please let me/Owen know what other dates you're likely to be free -- would love to see you!

Date: 2005-07-28 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluedevi.livejournal.com
Er, which wedding is it on the 13th? Is it the Kirstenfish wedding? 'Cos I'm going to that too. I have to admit I was thinking of multitasking, going to the wedding and getting to hang out with you guys for a few days as well. But if you're going to be busy with holiday preparations, no problem.

Date: 2005-07-28 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Ah! -- yes, same wedding. Cool! I've got to dash now (and no internet now till Monday) but will get in touch again next week & we'll sort out meeting up....

hmm

Date: 2005-08-02 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ann-maddy-jg.livejournal.com
intersting. . .

hmm

Date: 2005-08-02 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
intersting. . .

The housewarming cake was an inspiration

Date: 2005-08-04 06:13 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi Janet, I came across your website on the housewarming cake you baked. I found it very inspiring, and admirable. A marvellous effort indeed. Thanks for posting it.:) (adeline@soulcare.net from Kuala Lumpur)

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