Academe of fair to middling women

[j4]

Those of you on my flist who are involved in academia: have you used www.academia.edu? Do you think you would be likely to do so?

It's quite hard to evaluate a social networking site for which I'm really not part of what appears to be the intended demographic...

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[half-of-monty.livejournal.com]

Never heard of it before.

Brief response, having looked only at the homepage: it seems to be re-inventing the wheel. I can create an academic webpage for myself (I haven't done, naughty, but still) and I get daily emails of all preprints made public in my subject.

On the other hand: not all academic types can be bothered to learn basic html (though in that case they should be pointed at Mozilla composer and they will be able to do it in 20 mins - and surely your academic site should be on your department's server). And I hear other subjects (not maths or physics) don't have a decent arxiv system that everyone uses, and so the paper tracker would be useful. I don't know what people who don't have an arxiv do.

Though frankly, getting someone to start an arxiv (http://www.arxiv.org/) and gain critical mass for it would be more useful. (The system is that, when you've written your paper, you chuck it out in the public domain straight away so you get your name on your result and everyone can read and use it, while you're waiting for the peer review process).

Social networking site? Dunno. Never use facebook type things so I'm probably the wrong person to ask. Maybe that would be good, a forum for posting quick questions and things? Actually, I feel much more inclined to be convinced about that aspect.

In conclusion: if I heard all the kool kidz had started using the networking bit I would probably follow.

[addedentry.livejournal.com]

surely your academic site should be on your department's server

What if you move?

[half-of-monty.livejournal.com]

Usually you keep a stub page at your old dept with a redirect to your new.

Mind you, the chap I was going to use as an example of this has a mess of old dept pages all over the web so the system doesn't work that well!

[j4.livejournal.com]

Thanks for this. Couple of points:

I can create an academic webpage for myself (I haven't done, naughty, but still)

You seem to have an automatically generated homepage at what I believe to be the institution where you're currently working. Go to your dept's website and add "~yoursurname/" on the end. (Trying not to make your identity publicly visible in case you don't want it to be associated with your LJ!)

arxiv

Thanks, hadn't heard of that one. Does it really require you to put your papers in the public domain, or just to make them publicly accessible? There doesn't seem to be any way to sign in, so I'm assuming there's no way to bookmark/share your 'favourites' within arxiv (though obviously you could bookmark them in an external application eg your web-browser) -- is that correct?

Do you use Connotea (http://www.connotea.org/) at all, btw?

Never use facebook type things so I'm probably the wrong person to ask. Maybe that would be good, a forum for posting quick questions and things?

Well, there are lots of forums out there for posting all kinds of questions... Facebook's discussion forums don't do much for me, but I'm an ancient luddite who still remembers usenet. 8-)

[covertmusic.livejournal.com]

arXiV's a preprint server; it has most traction in physics (for example (http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0402335)) and mathematics. On the whole we want our papers to be available to everyone (and you retain copyright putting them on arXiv, it's not PD), so it's led to a very high percentage of self-archiving. You get into the whole Open Access debate there, which is a can of worms.

Three things from Nature you might find interesting, all science-focussed:
http://precedings.nature.com/
http://network.nature.com/
http://scinilla.nature.com/

All are, to my mind, a bit more exciting than Connotea (which is just del.icio.us with citation exporting).

[covertmusic.livejournal.com]

Oh, and as a fully-fledged scientific blogger/postdoc. and yes you can quote me, I've got no interest at all in academia.edu; if I want to establish an online identity there are hundreds of other ways of doing it (department website, personal website, blog, Facebook, Nature Network, pla.net, smoke signals, whatever); the reference-tracking is done better elsewhere (Connotea, delicious, Zotero); paper aggregation is a hot field - not just Scintilla, which I've already mentioned, but more specialist services like Postgenomic and Chemical Blogspace - and for discussion there's the blogosphere and all the other scientific social networks - I know at least three - which are springing up.

For that matter, there's Facebook, which is the defacto coffeeroom of global academia, like it or not!

It strikes me it's filling a niche that doesn't exist. Also, .edu? Too American, seriously.

[half-of-monty.livejournal.com]

Sorry not to reply before, didn't have much internet for the last week.

You seem to have an automatically generated homepage

Yes, sorry I was unclear. Everyone (at least, anyone at any maths dept I've ever come across) has an automatically generated page with contact details like that. However I could (and should) put up more.

Sorry for confusion between public domain and publicly accessible! Arxiv - you sign in only to upload papers etc, so it doesn't have a bookmarking facility. But as you say you can do that for yourself.

I don't use Connotea. I use mathscinet (http://www.ams.org/mathscinet/) - it looks like Connotea fulfils a similar role, but mathscinet is very well designed for us specifically.