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[personal profile] j4
Dear cyclists,

Cycling on the pavement is illegal. The reason it's illegal is that it is ANTISOCIAL, STUPID, and potentially DANGEROUS.

Cycling on a crowded pavement, even if it wasn't illegal, would still be ANTISOCIAL, STUPID and potentially DANGEROUS.

When you are told "stop cycling on the pavement" by somebody you have just nearly run over by trying to cycle off a busy pedestrian crossing onto a very narrow pavement, the correct answer is not to point at a nearby toddler on a plastic trike (on the pavement) and say "He's cycling on the pavement." Nor is it to yell "FUCK OFF".

Toddlers are allowed to cycle on the pavement, even though it's still fucking irritating and still fucking painful when they run over your heels/toes. However toddlers have an excuse for being as annoying and stupid as 2-year-olds, namely they're, like, actually two years old, and are still in training for being useful and non-irritating members of the human race. If you are riding a bike that's nearly as tall as me and you're old enough to have a stupid haircut, a tweed jacket and a cocking iPod -- and to shout FUCK OFF at strangers -- then I'm guessing you're actually old enough to learn to cycle on the road.

Furthermore, even if some OTHER CRETINS have parked their white vans and their sodding vanity-numberplated SUVs in the cycle lane and the zigzags so they can sit and read the paper while their morbidly obese other half waddles the 1.5 metres to the shop to buy fags and cake, that STILL doesn't make you NOT a cretin for cycling on the pavement.

Oh, and while we're here:

Cycling while smoking or using a mobile phone is probably not, in itself, illegal. It is, however, STUPID and potentially DANGEROUS. Yes, I know, you have superhuman balance and control and psychic powers which prevent other people doing anything unpredictable within a 5-metre radius of you; you are therefore quite capable of cycling while smoking, texting and juggling chainsaws, WHILE BLINDFOLDED. So get a fucking unicycle and join the circus. Oh, by the way, unicycling on the pavement? ALSO ILLEGAL.

No love,
me.

P.S. AND NINTHLY I don't want to know how ACTUALLY you ALWAYS cycle on the 40-foot-wide well-lit pavement outside your HOUSE and it's just the fascism of the nanny state and health-and-safety-gone-mad that says that's illegal and besides bikes have a decree from THE QUEEN that says they're allowed to run you over if they want to whereas cars are evil and are technically disallowed by the second law of thermodynamics. I also don't give a fuck how you cycled on a pavement when nobody was there to see and therefore it can't have really been illegal, unless you also prove at the same time that you can SHUT THE FUCK UP in the woods when there's nobody there to listen to you.
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Date: 2007-10-26 01:11 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-10-26 01:28 pm (UTC)
sparrowsion: photo of male house sparrow (car)
From: [personal profile] sparrowsion
Also, the fact that nearly the full width of the road is occupied by a couple of dippy pedestrians and a slower cyclist overtaking them is not a sufficient reason for mounting the pavement in order to overtake them all. Even if you were at least going the correct way down the one-way street in question.

Date: 2007-10-26 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sesquipedality.livejournal.com
Speaking as a cyclist CYCLE ON THE ROAD YOU F**KING MORONS! IT'S WHAT IT WAS INVENTED FOR.

Date: 2007-10-26 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com
South London Addendum - shrinking your bicycle by 60% so it looks like you've stolen it from a toddler, and adding an engine, is not the same as getting the pavement made into a cycle lane.

Cycling while smoking or using a mobile phone

Date: 2007-10-26 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think you probably could get done for either of these. The Highway Code has a Should for "keep both hands on the handlebars except when signalling or changing gear". If a policeman was feeling particularly grumpy I imagine cycling whilst on a mobile or smoking would come under "cycling without due care and attention".

James

Date: 2007-10-26 01:44 pm (UTC)
emperor: (Default)
From: [personal profile] emperor
Good rant!
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Yeah, but if the police actually gave a fuck about people cycling stupidly/illegally (or for that matter parking in cycle lanes) the world would be a very different place.

I've only ever once seen someone get stopped for cycling on the pavement, and that was when he overtook a police car by mounting the pavement to the left of it, which is really just taking the piss.

Date: 2007-10-26 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Is that those weird baby-motorbike things? I thought at first you were talking about those tossy low-slung stunt-bikes with which people cycle up stairs and over cars and stuff, but they don't have engines (possibly the only good thing about them).

Date: 2007-10-26 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
I am fortunate (ha!) in being able to speak as a cyclist, pedestrian and (occasional) driver. This gives me a wealth of experience based on which I estimate that 90% of people are inconsiderate twats, whatever mode of transport they are currently using to convey their twattish selves from a to b.

Date: 2007-10-26 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Jaysus.

I forgot about pedestrians in the cycle lane though. Usually IME it's two or three girls aged somewhere between 9 and 18 (who can tell?), wearing every single item of clothing from the dressing-up-box plus some ballet slippers made out of gold paper, all with at least one iPod and talking on at least one phone, who when you ring the bell or shout "get out of the road!" collapse into a) the road and b) a fit of hysterical, screaming giggles.

Or people walking BACKWARDS along the road talking to their mates.

Or cycling along the pavement so they can go at the same speed as their mates who are walking in the cycle lane ARGH DIE DIE DIE.
juliet: (fixie)
From: [personal profile] juliet
They don't seem to give that much of a fuck about people driving stupidly/illegally, either :-/

(friend of mine (on bike, on the road) was rear-ended yesterday by a taxi, who didn't stop; when she caught him up & went to remonstrate with him, there were a couple of bike cops nearby so she called them over. He zoomed off, turning right on a no-right-hand turn; which she called to their attention as well as explaining that he'd rear-ended her. They gave her a bollocking for stopping to remonstrate with the taxi near a pedestrian crossing, & did FA about the taxi.)

But agreed that, as you say, a significant proportion of people in/on whatever form of transport are just *crap*. Don't think I'd go so far as 90%, but then I am an optimist :-)

Date: 2007-10-26 02:03 pm (UTC)
juliet: (bike fixed)
From: [personal profile] juliet
I quite like them when they're actually being used as stunt bikes in appropriate place - you can do some v impressive things. Not really a form of transport, though.

Date: 2007-10-26 02:03 pm (UTC)
taimatsu: (Default)
From: [personal profile] taimatsu
I Agree With This Post.

I think legally those ten years old and under are allowed to cycle on the pavement. But I see obviously middle-aged idiots doing it all the flipping time.

Date: 2007-10-26 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sesquipedality.livejournal.com
Wise words indeed.

Mostly I think people just don't think about the needs of others.

Date: 2007-10-26 02:13 pm (UTC)
ext_3375: Banded Tussock (Default)
From: [identity profile] hairyears.livejournal.com
"Mummy says I mustn't cycle on the road until I'm older"

Date: 2007-10-26 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] half-of-monty.livejournal.com
And while we're on the subject, stop at red lights (http://www.stopatred.org/), get some decent bike lights, and if your brakes are broken, don't ride your bike again until you've got them fixed.

On the other hand, you're driving an SUV and crash into a cyclist from behind, claiming `your brakes don't work' is unlikely to be relevant.

Still, I have an entirely off-road commute to work (until it floods) so I get to avoid all other road-users for now.

Date: 2007-10-26 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] half-of-monty.livejournal.com
Oh, and on the other hand: cycles are legitimate road users of all roads. Even roads with a cycle path on the pavement. So don't yell at cyclists to get off the road and onto the pavement, they may have a legitimate reason not to want to go near it, like it having been covered by deep and dangerous gravel, for example.

Date: 2007-10-26 02:22 pm (UTC)
ext_3375: Banded Tussock (Default)
From: [identity profile] hairyears.livejournal.com


No, they're not. The Police choose not to act against children playing in front of their own house, on their own street, on their scooters and skateboards and bicycles.

That's all. I think there's something in the law that allows toddlers to trundle along on a tricycle, supervised by (or even tethered to) an adult but I wouldn't bet on it - it's about the Police and the CSO's showing discretion and choosing when to act on obvious hazards and irresponsible behaviour: they would definitely ask the parents to carry the trike and walk (or carry) the toddler in the crowds on Oxford Street on a Saturday.



Date: 2007-10-26 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sphyg.livejournal.com
Hear, hear. Plus, road cyclists should not cycle into pedestrians when the green man is showing at PEDESTRIAN crossings.

Date: 2007-10-26 02:24 pm (UTC)
juliet: (Default)
From: [personal profile] juliet
Not So. It's illegal under any circs. But in practice yes, it's acceptable.

Date: 2007-10-26 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Yes, I am aware of that, and no, I don't yell at cyclists to get out of the road. Unless they're cycling THE WRONG WAY on the road, in which case I just yell "YOU'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY" at which point they either yell abuse or look blank.

Date: 2007-10-26 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] burkesworks.livejournal.com
Bad enough that there are cyclists on the pavement; but round our way we have worse. I'm talking about those annoying little quad bikes that make a noise in inverse proportion to their size, of which there are many that infest the highways during the evening. Those trials bikes sometimes make an appearance too. Worst scenario of the lot recently was almost being knocked over by a kid who looked no more than about fourteen driving an unlicensed CZ-150 on the pavement...

Date: 2007-10-26 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] half-of-monty.livejournal.com
Oh, I wasn't talking to you, just to the random bad road user out there we're all having a go at shouting at. A lot of them don't know that.

Date: 2007-10-26 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] half-of-monty.livejournal.com
Nor should cars, as they regularly do at the top of south parks road.

Date: 2007-10-26 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Indeed. However road cyclists may, I think, within reason, ring their bells and/or shout at ditzy pedestrians who drift across the road when the red man is showing (even more so if said pedestrians are on the phone at the time). Particularly if they actually wait until the road traffic lights go green to amble out into the road, particularly when it's one of those sets of lights where you only get about 2 seconds to cross a bloody enormous junction full of buses, not that this happens every time I go through certain junctions or anything GRAAHHHHH.
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