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My post about intelligent writing for women seems to have started a bit of an argument; apologies to those whose comments I haven't answered as a result.

This afternoon some student wants to interview me about "geek culture" and "the IT profession", for his research. He says "I am especially willing to interview you to find out why IT is still a male dominated territory". Hmmm. I'm keen to find out:

- what he defines as "the IT profession"
- the extent to which it is still "a male dominated territory"
- whether he's asking men about the gender balance in IT, too

I fear it will be too much of a digression to start going on at him about the idea of geek as a gender.

FWIW I don't feel that I'm not a woman, or not female, just that gender really isn't the most important filter for my personal or professional interactions with other people -- geekiness (for want of a better word), literateness, and (now I come to think about it) age all feel like much stronger factors. (Of course, that's when you pull the false-consciousness card out of your hat, and say "ah, there seems no gender because it is all gender! And AS A WOMAN you can't be expected to see clearly that your femaleness informs everything you do at a subconscious level". The only winning move [and I'm not talking about fluttering my eyelashes here] is not to play.)

Lots of other half-formed thoughts, the clearest of which is "why on earth did I say I'd talk to this chap in the first place", which isn't very helpful. :-/

Date: 2008-03-27 10:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] juliet
Absolutely, people's interactions with each other are informed by the way the other person is reacting (aggression is a really good example of this). But I don't think that one can necessarily get past existing preconceptions/structures on the other person's part just by doing that; certainly not in the short term.

That people can consciously override subconscious expectations/beliefs/etc, that they can decide how to treat other people rather than just letting the animal instincts take over.

Yes - and I certainly don't think that "it's subconscious" or any such argument is a get-out clause. I'm all too painfully aware that I carry a bunch of my own preconceptions and stereotypes around, and that I don't always catch myself at it; but when I do I do try to bash them on the head a bit.

It's tough though because one of the ways in which humans make sense of a large and complicated world is by using stereotypes (both for their own reactions and when categorising input) and creating structures for people and situations. That process is going on below conscious level, so almost inevitably any work on fixing it has to happen after the fact. Which is difficult. A surprisingly large amount of behaviour is stereotyped (which is why habits are so hard to break - it's going on below the volitional level to at least some extent), and that includes interactions with others.

It's still not a get-out clause, though.

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