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The folk I love

I do hate the folk I love---
They hurt so:
Their least word and act may be
Cause of woe.

'Won't you come to tea with me?'
'Not to-day;
I'm so tired, I've been to church.'
Such folk say.

All the dreary afternoon
I must clutch
At the strength to love like them---
Not too much.

-- Lesbia Harford (1891-1927)

Date: 2003-09-25 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoiho.livejournal.com

Is it a blessing, or it is a curse?
Seems this love makes matters worse

Date: 2003-09-25 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
I'm still trying to get to you.

Date: 2003-09-25 02:55 am (UTC)
lnr: Halloween 2023 (Default)
From: [personal profile] lnr
*hugs*

I'm sorry if I've not been a very good friend lately.

Date: 2003-09-25 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
You have been a good friend, more so than I have! *hugs*

Date: 2003-09-25 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huskyteer.livejournal.com
I think Kipling says it best:

If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you
If all men count with you, yet none too much

Date: 2003-09-25 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Then ... "You'll be a man, my son!"
Ye-es. (I have kippled, and I know I don't like it.)

If nothing can hurt you, you're probably dead.

Date: 2003-09-25 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huskyteer.livejournal.com
But I do want to be a man, in that sense. And to play up and play the game, come to that.

Date: 2003-09-25 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Ah, well, I aspire neither to Y chromosomes nor to the sort of stiff-upper-lipped stoicism advocated in "If". And I loathe and despise cricket. ... It is cricket in that poem, isn't it? I can't remember. All sports look the same to me.

I aspire to being a Real Chalet School Girl. They don't bring their girls up to be "spineless jellyfish", you know.

Date: 2003-09-25 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huskyteer.livejournal.com
If modern society encouraged stiff upper lips over bloody whinging all the time, the world wouldn't be in the state it's...OK, won't go there.

I find both Chalet and Abbey impenetrable, I'm afraid. I used to like Malory Towers, but now I'm horrified that I ever did. Some day I'm going to write an article about what my life would have been like if I'd had the misfortune to go to school in an Enid Blyton universe.

Date: 2003-09-25 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
If modern society encouraged stiff upper lips over bloody whinging all the time, the world wouldn't be in the state it's...

Well, no, it'd be in a different state; but I'm far from convinced that it'd be in a better state, and I'm thoroughly unconvinced that individuals would be happier as a result.

I suppose it all rather depends on what one thinks "society" ought to be, and whether one regards the pursuit of individual happiness as A Good Thing.

I used to like Malory Towers, but now I'm horrified that I ever did.

Likewise, though for different reasons; I can't believe that I wasn't offended by the style, when I clearly remember being offended by similarly patronising attitudes from adults in real life.

I'm surprised you don't get on with the genre, though; the "schoolgirl code" is generally very keen on not whining, not sneaking, and standing on your own two feet without treading on other people's toes.

Some day I'm going to write an article about what my life would have been like if I'd had the misfortune to go to school in an Enid Blyton universe.

If you'd existed in Blyton's universe, you'd be too two-dimensional to write anything interesting about your life...

I honestly think I'd be a much happier person if I'd lived in the Chalet School universe. Though I'm less convinced that the flame and brown uniform would have suited me.

Date: 2003-09-25 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I honestly think I'd be a much happier person if I'd lived in the Chalet School universe.

Naturally. Everyone there was happy, at least after their first term.

Date: 2003-09-25 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sesquipedality.livejournal.com
If I alone could keep my head when all around were losing theirs
I probably wouldn't bother writing poetry.

Date: 2003-09-25 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoiho.livejournal.com

I have no need for friendship
Friendship causes pain
It's laughter and it's loving I disdain


Date: 2003-09-25 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Damn you, that was the other response I considered to [livejournal.com profile] wimborne's comment.

(That phrase "it's laughter and it's loving I disdain" makes the back of my brain feel scratchy, because it would make sense -- of a kind -- with or without the apostrophes.)

Date: 2003-09-25 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoiho.livejournal.com
with or without the apostrophes

Yes, I noticed that too; which is why I left them in.
(I googled to make sure I go the words right).

Date: 2003-09-25 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
I haven't noticed you disdaining either very convincingly.

Date: 2003-09-25 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoiho.livejournal.com
I disdain disdain itself.

Date: 2003-09-25 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
I disdain your mother.

Date: 2003-09-25 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoiho.livejournal.com
You wish!

Date: 2003-09-25 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] addedentry.livejournal.com
I look at the world and I notice it[']s turning

Date: 2003-09-25 04:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lnr
Istanbul^WConstantinople!

Date: 2003-09-25 04:52 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jiggery-pokery.livejournal.com
Carmen San Diego.

Date: 2003-09-25 03:56 am (UTC)
lnr: Halloween 2023 (Default)
From: [personal profile] lnr
Yes, I was just finding that too.

Date: 2003-09-25 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rysmiel.livejournal.com
but if you hold on tight to what you find
you might not mind so much
that even this must pass away

Date: 2003-09-26 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imc.livejournal.com
You can't always get what you want.
But if you try some time,
you might just find
that this song is a load of cobblers.

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