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The other day I got the following email:
From: janetmck / Janet McKnight stole the name of my ministry on site journal <thiefexposed@alumni.com>
Subject: write janet mcknight and ask her why she stole the name

G0d spoke the name ministry of dreams to me and he showed me put do not copy on website and that is higher than patent, but janetmck stole. here it is on her website, and will be on the internet soon: here we see that janetmck / Janet McKnight, j4, stole the name ministry of dreams to make it hers when it says do not copy on website, she stole and will release
There follows the first couple of paragraphs (ending mid-sentence) of this post.

At about the same time, somebody whom I know only quite distantly was emailed with the following:
From: janet mcknight has my ministry name on her journal and was told <janetmcknightstole@alumnidirector.com>
Subject: Re: ask janet mcknight why she stole my ministry name

on the internet soon: here we see that janetmck / Janet McKnight, j4, stole the name ministry of dreams to make it hers when it says do not copy on website, she stole and will release
The email again goes on to quote the LJ post, in which I do indeed refer to a metaphorical Ministry of Dreams.

As far as I can tell from the email, these people believe that they have the sole, $deity-given rights to the name "Ministry of Dreams".

It's not hard to link my name, my LJ nick and two of my email addresses (it's even easier now I've posted this!) but I'm amazed they made the effort just to send me some kind of bastard cross between a chain letter and those slightly-personalised "YOU are the star of this story!" books which you can buy for kids. Unfortunately, they don't seem very clear about what "on the internet" means, which may make it difficult for them to track down someone to email about the other 43,799 hits on Google for "Ministry of Dreams".

Edited to add: Wow, someone's vanity-googling fingers are quick off the mark: I got yet more nonsense by email after posting this. This time it was "From: janet mcknight stole my ministry name spoken by Jesus and will let go after <janetmcknigtfiredfromjob@muslim.com>", with similar schizo rambling and again the text of that LJ post. Apologies to anybody who's getting copied in.

And another: "From: janet stole and kept now releases but to late to keep rep and job watch <janetmcnightloosesjob@hot-shot.com>", subject line "janet is the laughing stock of net trying 2 make christian fall". I'm not sure which is funnier, the idea that I've got a "rep" to defend or the idea that I'd "loose" it as a result of being spammed by religious nutjobs.

Date: 2007-05-01 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] truecatachresis.livejournal.com
Ow, that site is painful on the eye...

Absolutely bonkers. There isn't a way for them to get hold of your meatspace address, is there?

Date: 2007-05-01 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
All that sort of information is out there, and I figure that the hoops I'd have to jump through to make sure it was 100% hidden (no such thing anyway!) aren't worth the effort for the sake of the IMO tiny risk posed by a bunch of usenet nutjobs (they have sent me a followup since I posted the above which, whether intentionally or not, makes it fairly clear how they found me).

Date: 2007-05-01 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arron-shutt.livejournal.com
I wouldn't worry about it. I've received email/replies from complete strangers who must have used scripts + google to track down my site and spam me with strange messages. I've had them from religious nutcases, lawyers claiming to represent $software companies, trolls and scam artists.

The last one was to do with a book I read, and the email I got from the author immediately made me delete the reference to the book. I didn't want to endorse anything from anyone who would go out of their way to be that rude to someone they didn't know.. :D

Date: 2007-05-01 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
I'm not worried, just... confused, really. Sometimes I think I'd love to know what goes on in the minds of people like this... other times I think I'm quite glad I don't!

Date: 2007-05-02 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arron-shutt.livejournal.com
It seems that there's plenty of mileage of having your own dream philosophy site, as it seems lots of people want the "End Times" stuff to happen for some reason. Perhaps it's because they missed the beginning, and they don't like being in the dull bit in the beginning. The "End Times" have been happening for millenia depending on which religious system you happen to follow. I think that is it driven to extracting funds through fear. After all if the world is going to end in a few days, why not make a meritorious donation to some guy with all the answers?

Well, using another religious idea as a starting point, I think that you could easily do your own. If I was going to be accused of plagarism before I did something, then I'd do a better job to show them up after the accusation.

For example - "Future Dreams of Cake Ministry" covers the four Bakers truth of cake: (1) People not eating cake are usually not happy. (2) Unhappiness is linked to an absence of cake. (3) Cake is usually connected with happy events (birthdays, weddings etc) (4) There is a way to cake, that usually involves baking or visiting a Baker.

And then you have the teachings of the eightcakefold path - Icing, nuts, fruit, marzipan, jam, buttercream, carrot and chocolate. And then you post dreams with obscure symbols that involve you eating dream cake in some way. And if you can work some weird conspiracy theories and other perversions in there..then I'm sure the donations will come rolling in.

P.S The Illuminati have a bake sale to raise funds for taking over the world. The location is a closely guarded secret, but I have it on good authority that they have chocolate brownies. ;)

Date: 2007-05-01 05:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kake
Boggle. I got one of those too! I thought it was some kind of Markov chain spam thing so I just deleted it.

Date: 2007-05-01 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Gah! To be honest the most annoying thing about this whole nonsense is the fact that they're emailing my friends -- if they were just emailing me I could block that fairly trivially.

They've sent a followup since I posted the above, copying in about 20 addresses from a newsgroup I used to post to a lot (but a few of the addresses are things like "spam@nospam.spamtrap.com", which makes me wonder if it is scripts rather than people doing this).

Date: 2007-05-01 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
From the Yahoo profile for ministryofdreams one is led to this (http://www.webspawner.com/users/dumitru1/)... delightful.

Date: 2007-05-01 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
Dumitru Duduman (http://www.handofhelp.com/about_dumitru.php) seems to be a major influence on this loon (whose name appears to be Bob).

Date: 2007-05-01 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
Mmm. Thanks... I think. :-}

"This was really like a real life deal"

Date: 2007-05-01 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barnacle.livejournal.com
Are git-visions (http://www.webspawner.com/users/dumitru7/index.html) a peculiar sort engendered by David Blaine, the gentleman that Marcus Brigstocke calls "Git Wizard"? I'm just jealous because I want a loon as well: maybe if we chortle sufficiently heartily at this Bob gentleman then he might be our communal loon. Commloonal. I'll... I'll work on it.

Date: 2007-05-02 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imc.livejournal.com
I didn't get any — I feel left out now…

Vision Thing (or, let's play mad-person tag)

Date: 2007-05-02 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Misintry of Drams


EXOCET 9/11
1 And God, or at any rate Brian Blessed playing God, spake these words in a more celestial colour scheme.
2 gordon's alive
3 i r serious loon, this r serious rant
4 thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's damn fine ass
5 vision is time seven-dimensional hypercube revealing nature of ONE TRUE BRACE STYLE: richard stallman beware
6 dream vision of excellent pair of shoes, i need new shoes, NOT coincidence
7 vision of enormous pillow, woke up to find my marshmallow collection gone
8 rapture vision, arguably blondie's only musical mistake (popular with young people, though)
9 cock in my ear, dream of jeannie, vision of a new britain
10 vision-vision, vision of me having vision, received in vision within vision, woke up in cold sweat - NOT MY OWN

Re: Vision Thing (or, let's play mad-person tag)

Date: 2007-05-02 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barnacle.livejournal.com
That shouldn't have been anonymous. Whoops. Um, got you going!

Date: 2007-05-02 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] d-floorlandmine.livejournal.com
Seems like your loon-magnet got switched on again ...

Date: 2007-05-07 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htfb.livejournal.com
Jesus showed me this in a vision received 7-1-2005, and I saw a Finger point to this place and I heard, "put that up there".

One has to admire the dedication of a prophet whose first intimation of the Divine is in gesture and manner very like a taxi driver in a bad mood.

The Moving Finger Writes, and having Writ
Sticks Upwards, and Instructs you where to Sit.

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