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Seeing [livejournal.com profile] hoiho's enthusiasm for his PhD application, and reading [livejournal.com profile] marnameow's post about wanting to study again, is really bringing home to me how much I miss studying. I originally wanted to do postgrad work in English, but my tutors talked me out of it (on the grounds that people only stood a chance of getting funding if they got a First, and they didn't think I should count on getting one); so I left, and got a job, and now I'm still in that job, and I feel as though I've achieved precisely nothing in the 3+ years I've been doing it.

The problem is, I don't think I'd know how to study any more. And I certainly wouldn't know how to begin writing about my "current research interests" as I'd have to do if I wanted to apply to do postgrad study -- basically, looking at the application forms and requirements, I need to be doing research in order to start doing research. Which means I should be doing it in my spare time while I'm working ... and I simply don't have the energy. Which, of course, means I'm not capable of doing postgrad study anyway: if I can't make the time/energy to study now, there's no way I could do a postgraduate degree.

I have so many ideas for things I want to write about, but I no longer seem to be able to put them into words. And if I do try to put them into words, the ideas seem to shrink and shrink until they're the kind of ideas that 14-year-olds would scorn to bother with for GCSE coursework.

I wish I could just make myself accept the fact that I'm not an intellectual, and never will be. Yes, I was passable at my schoolwork; that doesn't mean I can compete with adults. ... I wish I could stop thinking altogether.

Date: 2003-12-17 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marnameow.livejournal.com
One of the reasons that I'd like to start with something *small* is to get me back into the habit of studying. Starting a PhD from a few years of *no* studying would be very daunting.

You might be better off applying to somewhere like Birkbeck? Most of their courses have been designed for part-time study, and they're a lot less likely to reject you on the basis of not having studied for a bit.

Date: 2003-12-17 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
One of the reasons that I'd like to start with something *small*

Okay, I'm confused now. Your post seemed to say that you couldn't find anything difficult enough, that you were so far ahead of most of the courses you'd seen that you'd be bored in seconds. I would have thought a PhD or at least a Masters would be exactly what you needed!

Will ask [livejournal.com profile] sion_a about Birkbeck, he's studied there. Thank you for the recommendation.

Date: 2003-12-17 05:38 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I read it as saying that all the one-term courses at local colleges are aimed at city and guilds or GCSE sort of level study, and that that's why they didn't look very challenging. It's hard to find even undergrad degree level stuff that isn't a whole degree, and I can see why you might want to do something smaller as a warmup before deciding if you're up to the task. Though I think you can do individual open university modules on their own Marna, if you can see any you like the look of.

I've deferred again on my MSc and put off trying to write a dissertation until next September, having been entirely lacking in arse and motivation to do it this year. I need to do it at some point though.

(lnr@work)

Date: 2003-12-17 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j4.livejournal.com
It's hard to find even undergrad degree level stuff that isn't a whole degree

My mum's doing a course in Archaeology which if I remember rightly is the first year of a degree spread over 2 years. That's at Nottingham, which is supposedly very good for part-time and distance-learning and "continuing education".

I think in general if you're looking for degree-level courses you're better looking in places that offer full degrees, i.e. universities rather than community colleges / 6th-form colleges etc.

I've deferred again on my MSc and put off trying to write a dissertation until next September, having been entirely lacking in arse and motivation to do it this year.

*hugs*

Date: 2003-12-17 07:55 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jiggery-pokery.livejournal.com
I think in general if you're looking for degree-level courses you're better looking in places that offer full degrees, i.e. universities rather than community colleges / 6th-form colleges etc.

That's definitely the case in Middlesbrough.

That's at Nottingham, which is supposedly very good for part-time and distance-learning and "continuing education".

Without contradicting you, I suspect that the former polytechnics may additionally be particularly good in this regard.

This term I have been studying at the University of Teesside, a former poly, on the first half of a UCPD course which translates to one-fifteenth of an undergraduate degree. (One module = 12 credits; 24 credits = UCPD, 60 credits = UCAPD, 120 credits = one year of an undergraduate degree.) I've been studying Database Analysis and it hasn't been as interesting as I had hoped, but the teacher is pleasant, helpful, dedicated and personable. The level is first-year undergraduate; not very difficult, but some points in it are challenging.

It wasn't cheap, but it's not super-expensive - £75 for a half-year course, one three-hour session per week. (Normally £150, but first 24 credits half price.) If I had been willing to study the material off-campus without tuition, I could have done it for £0, too. This gives me membership of the University of Teesside, access to the computing facilities, library, career services, support services, skills sessions, clubs and societies and so on and so on, so I can basically do all the student things I should've done first time round but didn't at the time. Not a bad deal at all.

I too am struggling with concepts like responsibility and commitment and working out what I ought to be doing (both in the long term and in the short term). Not quite the same thing as you, from what you're saying, but at least similar. Unfortunately I have no answers.

Date: 2003-12-17 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marnameow.livejournal.com
That's what I meant, yes. Undergrad level in *not* literature would be fine, as would postgrad lit stuff. Just something *new*, really, and with new enough ideas to get my brain stretching. I don't want to do the first year of a degree course, because it's mostly learning *how* to think about things, and I've done that already.

You *can* do OU bits separately, and they would be *perfect* for me, except that there's nought there I'm interested enough it that I don't already know.

Date: 2003-12-17 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoiho.livejournal.com
Birkbeck's most endearing feature is the fact that CompSci is in the Faculty of Social Sciencies.

Well, I think it's endearing, as a SocSci Compsci.

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